Yara Standup - transcript corrections & action items

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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Daniel Pieper
But the farms, I would assume they are more up north, right?
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Justin Chai
Yeah.
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Justin Chai
So some driving and everything that we need to do.
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Daniel Pieper
Yeah.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay, cool.
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Justin Chai
Yeah, so a lot to do.
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Justin Chai
I'm sure it's same thing for you.
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Justin Chai
I'm sure you have a lot on your plate as well.
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Daniel Pieper
Not too bad, not too bad.
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Daniel Pieper
Hi, Khan.
Hi, Khan.Khanh.
Hi, Khan.Khanh.
Hi, Khan.Khanh.
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Daniel Pieper
Hi Quinn.
Hi Quinn.Quynh.
Hi Quinn.Quynh.
Hi Quinn.Quynh.
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Khanh Yara
Hi, Daniel.
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Khanh Yara
How are you?
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Khanh Yara
Hi everyone.
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Justin Chai
All good?
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Khanh Yara
How are you?
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Daniel Pieper
Excellent, thanks for asking.
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Daniel Pieper
Quinn.
Quinn.Quynh.
Quinn.Quynh.
Quinn.Quynh.
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Daniel Pieper
All good.
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Daniel Pieper
Fantastic.
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Khanh Yara
Cool.
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Daniel Pieper
Justin, do you want to start or what feels for you today?
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Justin Chai
I'll just.
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Justin Chai
Just maybe from yesterday's conversation.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
So I see you set up the.
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Justin Chai
Bots and everything, so that's great.
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Justin Chai
Could we, I mean, maybe again here,.
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Justin Chai
Daniel, you can help us have a think, right?
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Justin Chai
So you have the transcripts and everything.
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Justin Chai
You know then with the transcripts and.
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Justin Chai
Everything, is there a way to, I.
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Justin Chai
Don't know, extract some.
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Justin Chai
Some things from the transcripts?
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Justin Chai
Because I've been doing something like that.
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Justin Chai
So for example, some of the conversations.
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Justin Chai
That we have talked about, like yesterday,.
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Justin Chai
You know, yesterday mentioned that Quinn, you.
You know, yesterday mentioned that Quinn,Quynh, you.you
You know, yesterday mentioned that Quinn,Quynh, you.
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Justin Chai
Can start working on the design flows and everything.
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Justin Chai
So that is kind of like, I guess, action items that comes up from the transcripts.
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Justin Chai
Not sure if that's something that we can start doing because then that will.
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Justin Chai
Help in terms of just structuring some of the conversations that we have been talking about.
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Justin Chai
Just.
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Daniel Pieper
Leave this with me.
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Daniel Pieper
The action items I see from Fireflies are not always as quality usable as I like them to do to have missing context.
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Daniel Pieper
However, what I can do is what I can think of over the weekend, setting up a small pipeline myself and I try to see if I use a genre context.
However, what I can do is what I can think of over the weekend, setting up a small pipeline myself and I try to see if I use a genreYara context.
However, what I can do is what I can think of over the weekend, setting up a small pipeline myself and I try to see if I use a genreJira context.
However, what I can do is what I can think of over the weekend, setting up a small pipeline myself and I try to see if I use a genreYara context.
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Daniel Pieper
So I obviously have the Java context pairing with the Java context and then see if I can create a small pipeline to create tasks.
So I obviously have the JavaYara context pairing with the JavaYara context and then see if I can create a small pipeline to create tasks.
So I obviously have the JavaJira context pairing with the JavaJira context and then see if I can create a small pipeline to create tasks.
So I obviously have the JavaYara context pairing with the JavaYara context and then see if I can create a small pipeline to create tasks.
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Daniel Pieper
We wanted to check tasks as share tickets in Sierra Tickets, right?
We wanted to check tasks as shareJira tickets in SierraJira Tickets, right?
We wanted to check tasks as share tickets in SierraJira tickets, right?
We wanted to check tasks as shareJira tickets in SierraJira tickets, right?
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Justin Chai
Yes, correct.
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Justin Chai
Because you currently already have the decision board set up.
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Justin Chai
I think we can have, I guess, which is really the task that all of us are currently working on just to start tracking work done.
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Justin Chai
So I think that was, you would.
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Justin Chai
Think over the weekends.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
So we can officially start tracking tasks on I think next week onwards.
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Daniel Pieper
Yes.
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Daniel Pieper
What we need to think of who have the authority to assign a task.
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Daniel Pieper
Of course, what you can say, well, set up a pipeline, we use swinet and then we say, hey, okay, it looks like Justin has a task doing this and create a gear ticket.
Of course, what you can say, well, set up a pipeline, we use swinetSwainet and then we say, hey, okay, it looks like Justin has a task doing this and create a gearJira ticket.
Of course, what you can say, well, set up a pipeline, we use swinet and then we say, hey, okay, it looks like Justin has a task doing this and create a gearJira ticket.
Of course, what you can say, well, set up a pipeline, we use swinetFireflies and then we say, hey, okay, it looks like Justin has a task doing this and create a gearJira ticket.
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Daniel Pieper
Usually I would always want to have a human in the loop for that.
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Justin Chai
Yeah, I think that's the daily stand.
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Justin Chai
Up to discuss some of this task and assign it and decide together, I think.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay, good.
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Daniel Pieper
Exactly who I'm asking.
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Daniel Pieper
So what we could do as a process, we capture the task from the last stand up.
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Daniel Pieper
And then in the beginning of the next stand up, we have all the tasks assigned already.
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Daniel Pieper
Sorry, prepared in jira.
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Daniel Pieper
And then we set up a stage of pending review.
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Daniel Pieper
And then once we all agree on it, then it changes to open.
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Justin Chai
Okay.
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Daniel Pieper
Something around that.
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Justin Chai
Yeah, I think something around that would make sense, Khanh.
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Justin Chai
Okay, so I think that's one thing in my mind.
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Justin Chai
The second thing I wanted just to.
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Justin Chai
Because yesterday's conversation, I think there were two action items in that sense.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
So I'm sharing my screen.
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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Justin Chai
All right.
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Justin Chai
So I shared this link on the WhatsApp.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
I think based on our conversation yesterday,.
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Justin Chai
I think we can start making something like this, which is essentially the field force design system.
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Justin Chai
So you guys can take a look and read.
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Justin Chai
So in my thinking, maybe this is.
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Justin Chai
Something that Quinn can help to set up.
Something that QuinnQuynh can help to set up.
Something that QuinnQuynh can help to set up.
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Justin Chai
I can detail out same thing.
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Justin Chai
What is the method to do all of those things?
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Justin Chai
Then as you are building the SDK.
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Justin Chai
And everything, this thing can get updated.
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Justin Chai
For example, I have this scheduled cut.
For example, I have this scheduled cut.card.
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Justin Chai
This is the scheduled service cut.
This is the scheduled service cut.card.
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Justin Chai
We have preview, we have the code.
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Justin Chai
The installation method is just a placeholder.
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Justin Chai
Once we have the SDK setup, I think this will change.
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Justin Chai
Then a couple of examples of all.
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Justin Chai
Of the different cards and everything you.
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Justin Chai
Can see it's all there.
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Justin Chai
And everything.
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Justin Chai
So I think this is something that.
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Justin Chai
Maybe you can review just to see whether this makes sense or the detail is too much, too little in that sense.
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Justin Chai
And then I've also created MCP that.
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Justin Chai
Can be accessible right now.
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Justin Chai
I'll give you an example.
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Justin Chai
So this is an MCP basically, with my few other MCPs, what I found is that you kind of have to.
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Justin Chai
Make it possible public.
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Justin Chai
You cannot make it not public.
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Justin Chai
It has to be accessible in order.
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Justin Chai
For mobile or any kind of platform can access.
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Justin Chai
But we can define a key so that if, as long as you have.
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Justin Chai
That key, then you can access.
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Justin Chai
If you don't have this key, you.
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Justin Chai
Won't be able to do anything with it even if you have the URL.
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Daniel Pieper
So careful with that.
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Daniel Pieper
Sorry, this is quite a security risk.
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Daniel Pieper
I strongly advise not doing this exactly this way.
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Daniel Pieper
Sorry if I jump in here.
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Justin Chai
No, no, no, it's okay.
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Justin Chai
This is just my own doing because it's only for my own purpose in that sense.
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Justin Chai
So if there is a better way.
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Justin Chai
For the MCP access, you know, feel free to propose right now, at least.
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Justin Chai
For the purpose of the demo, I.
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Justin Chai
Think this is still okay, because whatever that we have, I think it's fine.
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Justin Chai
But if we're going to make this.
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Justin Chai
Something that should be more secure and everything.
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Justin Chai
I fully agree.
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Justin Chai
You know, my method might not be the correct one and I don't think it's the correct one.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay.
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Justin Chai
So I created this because I wanted also to demonstrate, because later on we.
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Justin Chai
Will have the meeting with Cord and everything.
Will have the meeting with CordClaude and everything.
Will have the meeting with CordClaude and everything.
Will have the meeting with CordClaude and everything.
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Justin Chai
I wanted to demonstrate kind of like the new way of working for us.
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Justin Chai
In the future, the designers might look at all of these different design systems and they will be able to create a page and everything.
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Justin Chai
So example then would be currently I've.
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Justin Chai
Connected mine to my cloth to it,.
Connected mine to my clothClaude to it,.it,
Connected mine to my clothCloudflare to it,.
Connected mine to my clothClaude to it,.
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Justin Chai
Right now it's still building it, but essentially it's able to go into the.
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Justin Chai
Connector and then to find all of.
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Justin Chai
The cards and everything and it's just.
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Justin Chai
Going to create a HTML of it.
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Justin Chai
So in the new way of working, it could be that a designer is working with Claude or any other form of platform that can connect to an.
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Justin Chai
MCP and be able to generate a prototype from it.
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Justin Chai
So that's where I have at and everything.
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Justin Chai
And then for the purpose of the afternoon meeting, basically we will be showing.
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Justin Chai
Our progress so far, you know, so.
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Justin Chai
Basically to walk through what has been done, so how we arrived, or rather maybe what is our plan.
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Justin Chai
So before all of these things, then we walk through the timeline that we.
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Justin Chai
Have so far, right.
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Justin Chai
And then after that the prd, how it was built and everything.
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Justin Chai
So I will walk him through those.
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Justin Chai
Parts and then how do we use Jira?
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Justin Chai
So Jira wise, I think this is more how I'm doing the Jira, but you know, I can.
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Justin Chai
Then we can say to Claude that, okay, Daniel is going to start thinking about how we can officialize this on.
Then we can say to Claude Tian that, okay, Daniel is going to start thinking about how we can officialize this on.
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Justin Chai
The JIRA board and everything over the weekend, so that next week onwards then we have real slice of work.
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Justin Chai
But we do see that JIRA is.
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Justin Chai
Good to start tracking all of those things.
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Justin Chai
I think this is where maybe you.
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Justin Chai
Could also come in to start talking about the decisions and everything.
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Justin Chai
So the bot that you have created.
So the botboard that you have created.
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Justin Chai
Right, we can talk a little bit about those things.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
I'll probably share a little bit about.
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Justin Chai
The GitHub as well.
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Justin Chai
So to open up the conversation about.
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Justin Chai
The decisions as well as open questions in that sense.
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Justin Chai
And then you can come in with the JIRA board.
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Justin Chai
Okay.
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Justin Chai
And then after that then it's about the prototypings.
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Justin Chai
So then this is more design phase.
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Justin Chai
So once we have done the decisions and all those things and how work is being tracked.
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Justin Chai
Then it's now moving forward to how.
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Justin Chai
Do we communicate with stakeholders.
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Justin Chai
Then here I can show everybody the.
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Justin Chai
Prototype, show him what has been done so far.
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Justin Chai
And more importantly then is the conversion method.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
So we have a method to create prototype, then we have a method to create the react native.
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Justin Chai
Both myself and Quinn, we went on.
Both myself and Quinn,Quynh, we went on.
Both myself and Quinn,Quynh, we went on.
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Justin Chai
Separate tracks trying to create those things.
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Justin Chai
So we have, for example, I think this one, basically this is just how it was done.
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Justin Chai
So this is the original screen and then this is the first pass by.
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Justin Chai
Quinn and then this is the second one.
QuinnQuynh and then this is the second one.
QuinnQuynh and then this is the second one.
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Justin Chai
So you can see the first pass.
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Justin Chai
Is not that great.
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Justin Chai
Second pass, then it looks more or.
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Justin Chai
Less like the screen.
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Justin Chai
Same thing for the homepage and then.
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Justin Chai
For the schedules page, etc.
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Justin Chai
So this is really to demonstrate that how we are doing things and how we have learned to replicate our way of working internally so that we can scale.
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Justin Chai
Because I think that would be a.
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Justin Chai
Very important part, what we are doing right now.
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Justin Chai
How do we scale?
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Justin Chai
Maybe one person has already done something.
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Justin Chai
That he felt it's a good process.
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Justin Chai
And then, you know, test it out.
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Justin Chai
With a couple of people to see whether they can replicate the same thing.
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Justin Chai
Because at this point in time it.
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Justin Chai
Is very cheap to do such testing so that we can test the workflow.
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Justin Chai
Compared to previously, where without AI, you won't be able to do this.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
If you want to create this screen,.
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Justin Chai
You will take, I don't know, I.
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Justin Chai
Don't know how long it would take,.
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Justin Chai
But it would take you a lot, much longer period of time to test and everything.
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Justin Chai
So yes.
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Justin Chai
Daniel,.
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Daniel Pieper
Do you think it would make sense to give them a little bit of an intermediate step?
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Daniel Pieper
Okay, we have a design system now and you can use the design system, you can load it into Claude to arrive to a workflow that you can then have on pages.
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Daniel Pieper
That's pretty much the steps.
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Daniel Pieper
It could be a simple diagram at least it could be helpful for users because it might be misleading if they think, oh, we have a design system, you just open cloth and then you get the prototype.
It could be a simpleAnd diagramI atthink leastthis itis couldeither belike helpfulthey forget usersconfused becauseor itthere might be misleading if they think, oh, we have a design system, you just open clothbig andstep thenin youbetween getof thedesign prototype.system.
That's pretty much the steps. It could be a simple diagram at least it could be helpful for users because it might be misleading if they think, oh, we have a design system, you just open clothClaude and then you get the prototype.
It could be a simple diagram at least it could be helpful for users because it might be misleading if they think, oh, we have a design system, you just open clothClaude and then you get the prototype.
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Daniel Pieper
And I think this is either like they get confused or there might be a big step in between of design system.
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Daniel Pieper
Perfect.
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Justin Chai
Yeah.
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Justin Chai
So something like this.
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Justin Chai
So the design system as a service of sorts, right?
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Justin Chai
You have the design, you have MCP tools and everything.
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Justin Chai
So the design agent will use the MCP to create, the developer agents will.
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Justin Chai
Use it to create the pages and everything.
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Daniel Pieper
Do you want to show a prompt in this context?
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Justin Chai
Not really, to be honest.
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Justin Chai
I think prompting wise I think that's another discussion that we can have.
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Justin Chai
How do we prompt everything?
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Justin Chai
I haven't thought too much about that because if you see my thinking right now, I basically just say, can you just look at the MCP and create.
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Justin Chai
A page for it?
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Justin Chai
Because I just want to use it as a template.
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Justin Chai
You can see that it's able to.
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Justin Chai
Create as is the pages.
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Daniel Pieper
Pretty good.
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Justin Chai
If I look at this, this is really what we really want in that sense.
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Justin Chai
When I was creating the mcp, I had a few challenges in that sense because it was not serving the right code or it was not serving enough details to the agent to create the pages as well.
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Justin Chai
So in the end, we're just serving the actual code itself so that they.
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Justin Chai
Can create the actual component so it doesn't drift.
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Justin Chai
So there's some learnings around those lines, but I don't think we'll go deep.
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Justin Chai
Into that in that sense during the segment.
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Justin Chai
But at the end, the essence is that we do have something like that to make sure that, you know, everybody's going to speak in the right language.
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Justin Chai
Because at the end of the day, what I think ideally we need to start thinking through is prototyping as a.
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Justin Chai
Way to communicate, you know, agree.
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Daniel Pieper
But I think, I think this screen alone, what you just shared, could be really helpful to basically bridge a little bit of the gap of from here, texting versus getting some output.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah.
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Justin Chai
So during the.
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Justin Chai
During the meeting, we'll probably do the same thing.
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Justin Chai
I will open up just to demonstrate.
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Justin Chai
How this is going to be done.
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Justin Chai
And this can be done, you know,.
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Justin Chai
So that, you know, he also gets.
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Justin Chai
A flavor of, you know, the new.
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Justin Chai
Way of working, how we are thinking.
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Justin Chai
And all of those things.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
I can already imagine a couple of.
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Justin Chai
Things that people might ask, which is,.
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Justin Chai
You know, how do we make sure.
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Justin Chai
That we have a single source of truth and all these kind of things, you know, we will come across the bridge when we come to them.
That we have a single source of truth and all these kind of things, you know, we will come acrosscross thethat bridge when we come to them.it.
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Justin Chai
So let's say that right now this.
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Justin Chai
Is where we are at.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
And then after that.
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Justin Chai
Okay, we can go then after that maybe to Daniel.
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Justin Chai
Just to give you additional background, we had that architecture meeting yesterday.
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Justin Chai
Okay, I'll share you.
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Justin Chai
I'll show you this basically right now, if you look from a design perspective, right, for this particular project, we had to build the single source of truth.
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Justin Chai
And when I mean single source of.
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Justin Chai
Truth, it means that we need to.
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Justin Chai
Build that design system because then that is where the designs can get done and everything.
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Justin Chai
And then from a requirements perspective, we.
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Justin Chai
Have to build that single Source of truth as well.
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Justin Chai
So we have the PRD that is.
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Justin Chai
Done in each phase of the project.
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Justin Chai
The single source of truth is going.
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Justin Chai
To be very important.
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Justin Chai
If you do not have a single.
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Justin Chai
Source of truth, then the agent does not have the context to do all of those things.
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Justin Chai
So when we were discussing internally, we.
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Justin Chai
Do not have a single source of truth when it comes to my architecture in YARA itself.
Do not have a single source of truth when it comes to mythe architecture in YARA itself.
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Justin Chai
Because if you recall, quite early on.
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Justin Chai
We talked about dependencies.
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Justin Chai
We want to make sure that the app that we're going to develop, it should probably come and interface with our.
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Justin Chai
Systems at the end of the day.
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Justin Chai
But in order to do that, you.
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Justin Chai
Need to give the agent the context of all of this different architecture.
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Justin Chai
What is missing right now is that.
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Justin Chai
There is no single context that map to our entire portfolio.
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Justin Chai
The multiple diagrams, multiple screens and everything.
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Justin Chai
Engineering is already kind of like doing something around that.
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Justin Chai
So they are going to create a.
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Justin Chai
Single source of truth.
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Justin Chai
Somebody needs to create that single source of truth.
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Justin Chai
Then obviously you need to have a.
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Pipeline to maintain it as well.
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Justin Chai
So I think that is something that.
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Engineering will work on.
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Justin Chai
Because I do not have that kind of context and there is so much.
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Justin Chai
Information in terms of the engineering side of things, I cannot replicate that sort of truth.
Information in terms of the engineering side of things, I cannot replicate that sortsource of truth.
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Justin Chai
So what will exist is external systems.
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Justin Chai
That is already built and their documentation.
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Justin Chai
So all of these contracts can be.
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Justin Chai
Fed as context so that we can build the app and its backend for front end.
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Justin Chai
So yeah.
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Daniel Pieper
What about overloading the agent with context?
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Daniel Pieper
If you're overloading the agent with 100,000 token in the beginning for a prompt.
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Daniel Pieper
Have you thought about that part?
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Daniel Pieper
Because I think the important part is need to know.
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Daniel Pieper
What does the agent need to know?
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Daniel Pieper
And it's a fine line of having enough context to do the task, but not feeding in the entire architecture of the company.
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Khanh Yara
Right.
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Justin Chai
I think it's because maybe Khan, do you have the.
I think it's because maybe Khan,Khanh, do you have the.
I think it's because maybe Khan,Khanh, do you have the.
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Justin Chai
Or maybe after this, right, you share me that updated.
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Justin Chai
Engineering, Maybe you screen,.
Engineering, Maybe you screen,.share,
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Justin Chai
Then we can explain that to Daniel.
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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Khanh Yara
So Daniel and also Justin that I'm.
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Khanh Yara
I'm still working on.
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Khanh Yara
And I also agree with Daniel on the overloading.
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Khanh Yara
We might overloading the context in the first place if we ingest many things, the entire sort of truth.
We might overloading the context in the first place if we ingest many things, the entire sortsource of truth.
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Khanh Yara
So what I am doing is.
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Khanh Yara
So imagine this.
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Khanh Yara
We have around two to three projects only.
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Justin Chai
Okay.
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Khanh Yara
And between those three projects they have to share background, the architecture background.
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Khanh Yara
So first we always ensure that the agent will know.
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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Khanh Yara
This is the share of the dependencies between the services, the dependency display components, all the model are the Business logics.
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Khanh Yara
And we try not to flood 100 pages of the SEOA.
AndBut we tryneed notto have it really concise on the either the markdown file and we need to floodmark 100each pagesmarkdown offile as the SEOA.front matter.
And we try not to flood 100 pages of the SEOA.SSOT.
And we try not to flood 100 pages of the SEOA.SSOT.
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Khanh Yara
But we need to have it really concise on the either the markdown file and we need to mark each markdown file as the font matter.
But we need toSo havethe itfront reallymatter concisewould onlet the either theagent markdownknow fileokay, andit wejust need to mark eachload markdownthis file as thefor fontits matter.purpose.
But we need to have it really concise on the either the markdown file and we need to mark each markdown file as the fontfront matter.
But we need to have it really concise on the either the markdown file and we need to mark each markdown file as the fontfront matter.
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Khanh Yara
So the form matter would let the agent know okay, it just need to load this file for its purpose.
So the formfront matter would let the agent know okay, it just need to load this file for its purpose.
So the formfront matter would let the agent know okay, it just need to load this file for its purpose.
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Khanh Yara
It is the on demand.
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Khanh Yara
I'm just loading.
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Khanh Yara
It's not a fit in the 100% at the first time.
It's not a fitfeed in the 100% at the first time.
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Khanh Yara
So this is what I'm working on.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah, super important.
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Khanh Yara
And when we start the new feature or new task.
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Khanh Yara
So we will ask the agent to do the brainstorming first based on the YAML file with the front matter on the demand.
So we will ask the agent to do the brainstorming first based on the YAML file with the front matter on the demand.
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Khanh Yara
So it will decide which YAML file or which magnify it will need for the brainstorming.
So it will decide which YAML file or which magnifymarkdown file it will need for the brainstorming.
So it will decide which YAML file or which magnifymarkdown file it will need for the brainstorming.
So it will decide which YAML file or which magnifymarkdown file it will need for the brainstorming.
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Khanh Yara
And once we have the report from brainstorming, we turn to the planning.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah.
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Khanh Yara
So once we also have the planning, the SEO ALD we will review together between the engineering.
So once we also have the planning, the SEO ALDSSOT we will review together between the engineering.
So once we also have the planning, the SEO ALDSSOT we will review together between the engineering.
So once we also have the planning, the SEO ALDSSOT we will review together between the engineering.
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Khanh Yara
Once we freeze that node.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah.
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Khanh Yara
Then we turn to the execution.
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Khanh Yara
So that is the plan.
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Khanh Yara
And so how to maintain that sort of truth.
And so how to maintain that sortsource of truth.
And so how to maintain that sortsource of truth.
AndAlso soI howam toworking maintainon thatthe sortCI/CD continuous integration where we have a change request from the product owner or from the engineering when we identify some of truth.the truth would be we update this by the pull request.
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Khanh Yara
Also I am working on the CID continuous integration where we have a chance request from the product owner or from the engineering when we identify some of the truth would be we update this by the pull request.
Also I am working on the CIDCI/CD continuous integration where we have a chancechange request from the product owner or from the engineering when we identify some of the truth would be we update this by the pull request.
Also I am working on the CIDCI/CD continuous integration where we have a chancechange request from the product owner or from the engineering when we identify some of the truth would be we update this by the pull request.
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Khanh Yara
And the pull request you have the governance, the CI.
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Justin Chai
Yeah, exactly.
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Daniel Pieper
This is what I'm thinking is as well that you have a single source of truth.
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Daniel Pieper
And this is like really a massive library.
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Daniel Pieper
A massive library, but it is atomic in a way of truth.
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Daniel Pieper
It's atomic.
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Daniel Pieper
And from there you can pretty much create artifacts of the source of truth with a reference that is related to a single task, what is on hand.
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Daniel Pieper
Think of it, you have.
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Daniel Pieper
You have one engineer who knows everything across organization.
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Daniel Pieper
Right.
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Daniel Pieper
And then a new developer joining and he has a single small task.
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Daniel Pieper
You wouldn't give them now a one, a one year download of all the knowledge you would say for this task.
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Daniel Pieper
This is what you need to know.
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Daniel Pieper
Correct.
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Daniel Pieper
And this is what you can do with an agent.
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Daniel Pieper
This is what my thinking is you have a single source of truth and there's a single source of truth for design system, single source of truth from their business requirement and one for technical documentation, something around that.
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Daniel Pieper
And then the orchestration agent can pull an artifact, can pull information, create an artifact for the task on hand.
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Daniel Pieper
And this artifact goes into the ticket as context for this ticket.
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Daniel Pieper
So it could be some.
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Daniel Pieper
You have a very simple example relating to the other design system I'm working on.
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Daniel Pieper
You have different table formats and there are some of the very, very complex tables with very loaded features.
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Daniel Pieper
In extreme case, you would be loading the entire design system into an agent, but for a task that only requires a simple static table.
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Daniel Pieper
So what is what can happen instead is you have their orchestration agent pulling out a design system, looking at which table do I need?
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Daniel Pieper
Oh, I only need a simple table.
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Daniel Pieper
And then you extract this simple table from the design system as an artifact into the ticket or assign it to a ticket reference.
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Daniel Pieper
And then you really have the scenario of minimal context.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah, I agree.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah, that is exactly what we want.
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Khanh Yara
So even we want to avoid the LLM in the sense that, for example, we might have to have the LLM to decide on which context is what I already mentioned on an artifacts that are only fixed in that task only.
So even we want to avoid the LLM in the sense that, for example, we might have to have the LLM to decide on which context is what I already mentioned on an artifacts that are only fixed in that task only.
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Khanh Yara
So.
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Khanh Yara
So we consider them, consider the markdown file, the atomic markdown file with the front matter as the sort of truth or our assets all over the time.
So we consider them, consider the markdown file, the atomic markdown file with the front matter as the sortsource of truth or our assets all over the time.
So we consider them, consider the markdown file, the atomic markdown file with the front matter as the sortsource of truth or our assets all over the time.
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Khanh Yara
And we can build the view layer that why I mentioned in our first call, that is the view layer based on derive on that assess we can fire file way to do it very deterministic way.
And we can build the view layer that why I mentioned in our first call, that is the view layer based on derive on that assessasset we can fire file way to do it very deterministic way.
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Khanh Yara
For example, we can even introduce some kind of the cli, our internal cli.
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Khanh Yara
So the new developer training he know.
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Khanh Yara
Okay, just follow the readme file.
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Khanh Yara
This is the CLI we need to.
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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Khanh Yara
For example, slash.
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Khanh Yara
Yes.
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Khanh Yara
Starting.
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Khanh Yara
Okay, what do you want?
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Khanh Yara
You want to get context or you want to add a new feature?
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Khanh Yara
You want to do a minor bug fix?
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Khanh Yara
So what you want to do, so it is the CL0I and then you can connect to cloud or you can connect to any model to help you to derive the context from truth.
You want to do a minor bug fix? So what you want to do, so it is the CL0ICLI and then you can connect to cloudClaude or you can connect to any model to help you to derive the context from truth.
So what you want to do, so it is the CL0ICLI and then you can connect to cloudClaude or you can connect to any model to help you to derive the context from truth.
So what you want to do, so it is the CL0ICLI and then you can connect to cloudClaude or you can connect to any model to help you to derive the context from truth.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah, so this is what I'm planning because following the CLI is already the way we can to follow exactly the process.
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Justin Chai
Yes,.
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Daniel Pieper
Perfect.
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Justin Chai
Okay, so basically we will kind of end there because one of the things.
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Justin Chai
That we need a decision with Claude.
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Justin Chai
Is that even though we are now talking about Greenfield, in order for us.
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Justin Chai
To make sure that we can give.
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Justin Chai
It the best context and everything we.
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Justin Chai
Do need to connect to our current stage environment.
Do need to connect to our current stagestaging environment.
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Justin Chai
So if we need to connect to.
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Justin Chai
Our current stage environment, it's just to.
Our current stagestaging environment, it's just to.
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Justin Chai
Ask CLAUDE if we are able to.
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Justin Chai
Do that, because then that will be the easiest way to get the information and everything as well.
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Justin Chai
So that will be one of the.
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Justin Chai
Bigger decision points that we need to talk to o' clock for today.
Bigger decision points that we need to talk to o' clockClaude for today.
Bigger decision points that we need to talk to o' clockClaude for today.
Bigger decision points that we need to talk to o' clockClaude for today.
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Justin Chai
Okay, so that, that would be kind of what we will do.
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Justin Chai
Of course, during the session I think there will be a lot of back.
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Justin Chai
And Forth, I guess he would probably have quite a bit of comments, you know.
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Justin Chai
So then let's see where it goes in that sense.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
So I think that's where I'm at in this sense.
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Justin Chai
While preparing for the walkthrough today, maybe Daniel, you.
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Justin Chai
You want to have anything to add to this entire flow like.
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Justin Chai
Like you.
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Justin Chai
You want to jump in or things.
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Justin Chai
That you think you should be emphasizing.
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Daniel Pieper
You mean right now in the preparation or you mean then later in the call?
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Justin Chai
Later in the call.
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Justin Chai
You know, I'm preparing it.
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Justin Chai
So as this flow, do you think.
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Justin Chai
There's anything else we should be adding in?
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Daniel Pieper
Yes, but I will try to reduce.
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Daniel Pieper
I will use talk time and then.
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Daniel Pieper
And let's see.
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Justin Chai
Okay.
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Justin Chai
Okay, sure.
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Daniel Pieper
We discussed a number of things.
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Daniel Pieper
I will create a small article for you how you can protect the endpoint for this mcp.
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Daniel Pieper
I get it.
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Daniel Pieper
The impact isn't massive.
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Daniel Pieper
But I've seen those companies that it starts creeping in as a way of doing it.
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Daniel Pieper
And this is where easily you have an NCP that exposes sense confidential details.
And this is where easily you have an NCPMCP that exposes sensesome confidential details.
And this is where easily you have an NCPMCP that exposes sensesensitive confidential details.
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Justin Chai
Yep, I know, I know.
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Justin Chai
I mean.
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Justin Chai
So I think that's where we have.
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Justin Chai
To be careful right now.
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Justin Chai
For demo purpose.
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Justin Chai
I think it's okay.
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Justin Chai
But obviously yes, I agree with you on the hardening of the security for.
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Justin Chai
The MCP is really essential.
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Daniel Pieper
Would it be helpful if I just create a small article how you can do.
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Daniel Pieper
You can do this with Claude.
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Daniel Pieper
Just a bit of guidance.
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Daniel Pieper
Would this be helpful?
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Justin Chai
Sure.
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Justin Chai
You can share it with me then.
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Justin Chai
I can.
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Justin Chai
I can do it.
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Daniel Pieper
Yes.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay, good.
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Justin Chai
Maybe who else?
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Justin Chai
Quinn, anything that you have done so far or you still need some time at least on the versioning that we talked about.
Quinn,Quynh, anything that you have done so far or you still need some time at least on the versioning that we talked about.
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Justin Chai
Yeah, working in progress.
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Justin Chai
Sorry Quinn, a bit soft.
Sorry Quinn,Quynh, a bit soft.
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Justin Chai
It's still a.
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Justin Chai
Working in progress.
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Justin Chai
Okay.
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Justin Chai
I will have a demo tomorrow.
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Justin Chai
Okay.
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Justin Chai
I think then that's where I have right now.
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Justin Chai
So maybe what can be done is after this call.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
I think Daniel, you can review this.
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Justin Chai
I can send this to you.
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Justin Chai
You can take a look at this.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
Some of the links.
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Justin Chai
If you don't have the username and password.
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Justin Chai
Because the cloud was kind of like.
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Justin Chai
Being schizo about allowing me to deploy with a password and deploy without password.
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Justin Chai
Something along those lines.
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Justin Chai
So the password keeps changing or maybe can't just.
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Khanh Yara
So yeah, just on the demo purposes or I mean just a suggestion on how just is communicating by the cloudflare pages here.
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Khanh Yara
So I also exploring the same kind of the same thing with the sort of truth the representative layer also.
So I also exploring the same kind of the same thing with the sortsource of truth the representative layer also.
So I also exploring the same kind of the same thing with the sortsource of truth the representative layer also.
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Khanh Yara
So we can also use GitHub Pages and GitHub Enterprise.
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Khanh Yara
It allow us to publish the pages internally because without the enterprise would be to be required to be public.
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Khanh Yara
So since Yara already have the GitHub Enterprise package, I suggest Justin, you can try to use GitHub Enterprise pages instead.
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Justin Chai
Okay.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay.
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Khanh Yara
What imaging is for example in the setup truth later on when we have any chance request or any sweep fix pull request would be created and then also GitHub pages to be in the pun decryption so we can review it first.
What imagingI'm imagining is for example in the setup truth later on when we have any chancechange request or any sweep fix pull request would be created and then also GitHub pages to be in the punpull decryptionrequest preview so we can review it first.
What imagingI mean is for example in the setupsource of truth later on when we have any chancechange request or any sweepbug fix pull request would be created and then also GitHub pages to be in the punPR decryptiondescription so we can review it first.
What imagingI'm imagining is for example in the setupsource of truth later on when we have any chancechange request or any sweep fix pull request would be created and then also GitHub pages to be in the punpull decryptionrequest so we can review it first.
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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Khanh Yara
This is the changes and then we can watch the pun request.
This is the changes and then we can watch the punpull request.
This is the changes and then we can watch the punpull request.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah.
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Khanh Yara
So if we already have the GitHub Enterprise pages, you can also remove the passwords.
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Justin Chai
I will need to talk to ram.
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Justin Chai
I don't have any.
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Justin Chai
I have no access to any of our.
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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Justin Chai
Yeah.
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Khanh Yara
I think that is something on the later part where.
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Khanh Yara
Where we have the.
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Khanh Yara
The.
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Khanh Yara
The foundation or the governance in place.
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Daniel Pieper
Yeah.
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Khanh Yara
So yeah, I mean this one is still really good that we can communication.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay.
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Daniel Pieper
Yeah.
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Daniel Pieper
And we wouldn't have access to it either.
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Daniel Pieper
That's what I was about to say.
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Daniel Pieper
So please don't do GitHub pages for now.
So please don't do GitHubCloudflare pages for now.
497
Justin Chai
We.
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Daniel Pieper
But that said, that said, the one I'm sending you for Cloudflare access, Justin, it's probably this one as well.
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Daniel Pieper
So pretty much two birds, one stone.
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Justin Chai
Sure.
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Daniel Pieper
The approach I'm sending you is and it's very easy, it's for free Cloudflare and you can use the same approach for the MVP securing it.
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Daniel Pieper
This is service credentials again.
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Daniel Pieper
I sent you the details and you can just use Claude for that and for the pages.
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Daniel Pieper
You can also have an access app in front of it.
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Daniel Pieper
And then we always have one password and there can be different ways of.
506
Justin Chai
How we use it.
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Justin Chai
I know the.
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Justin Chai
The what?
509
Justin Chai
The trust.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
You put your emails and everything correct.
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Justin Chai
Yeah.
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Daniel Pieper
Different ways of setting it up.
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Justin Chai
I don't want to set that up.
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Justin Chai
Because it was a bit annoying.
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Justin Chai
You have to keep doing it for.
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Justin Chai
New pages that you.
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Justin Chai
There's a way to automate that so you can.
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Daniel Pieper
I'm happy to discuss this often.
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Daniel Pieper
I guess today you're more focused on the session, but I typically help you with that.
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Daniel Pieper
I do this almost every day.
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Justin Chai
Okay, no problem.
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Justin Chai
Yeah, I know the Zero trusting.
Yeah, I know the Zero trusting.Trust.
Yeah, I know the Zero trusting.Trust thing.
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Justin Chai
I had that for a few things.
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Justin Chai
Some of my pages are behind the.
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Justin Chai
Zero trust and everything, but this one,.
527
Justin Chai
I thought it was username and password.
528
Justin Chai
Instead of everything, but anyway.
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Justin Chai
Yes, I know what you mean.
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Justin Chai
Okay, I can take a look at that.
531
Justin Chai
I think this is where we are at today.
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Justin Chai
I Don't think there's anything else that is pending?
533
Justin Chai
Yeah, I don't think there's anything else that's pending.
534
Justin Chai
So today is really just to prep.
535
Justin Chai
To prepare the discussion with Clock today.
To prepare the discussion with ClockClaude today.
To prepare the discussion with ClockClaude today.
To prepare the discussion with ClockClaude today.
536
Daniel Pieper
Fantastic.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay, good.
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Justin Chai
So I think one thing just to make sure that I just want to assign a couple of work in that sense.
539
Justin Chai
Right.
540
Justin Chai
So Daniel, same thing, jira.
541
Justin Chai
Right.
542
Justin Chai
And this is also more for your.
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Justin Chai
Firefly to have that transcript as well.
544
Justin Chai
So again, Daniel, you have the Jira,.
545
Justin Chai
The process and everything.
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Justin Chai
Right.
547
Justin Chai
And then I will share this with you.
548
Justin Chai
You can take a look and review.
549
Justin Chai
And see if there's anything else that you feel we should add.
550
Justin Chai
So I think before our call you.
551
Justin Chai
Can give me that comments.
552
Justin Chai
Actually I'll share with everybody.
553
Justin Chai
Right.
554
Justin Chai
Khan then, same thing.
Khan then,Khanh, same thing.
KhanKhanh then, same thing.
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Justin Chai
I think you are working on the.
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Justin Chai
Single source of truth.
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Justin Chai
So we need to have the decision.
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Justin Chai
With Claude today whether I will allow to interface with our existing systems and everything.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
So then that will help.
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Justin Chai
So let's see what he says.
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Justin Chai
Okay.
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Justin Chai
And then Quinn, same thing tomorrow.
And then Quinn,Quynh, same thing tomorrow.
And then Quinn,Quynh, same thing tomorrow.
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Justin Chai
Then you can show the versioning and.
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Justin Chai
All of those things.
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Justin Chai
Then I think for Quinn and Khan, maybe also take a look at how.
Then I think for QuinnQuynh and Khan,Khanh, maybe also take a look at how.
Then I think for QuinnQuynh and Khan,Khanh, maybe also take a look at how.
567
Justin Chai
I've set up the design system, whether it makes sense or not, whether the.
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Justin Chai
Details of the components and everything.
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Justin Chai
Is it too much, too little, just.
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Justin Chai
To kind of make sure that we.
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Justin Chai
Align in terms of how this can be built up, you know, I think.
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Justin Chai
It will be a stretch goal, to.
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Justin Chai
Be honest with you, if this is built out in our SDK, you know, I think that would be a stretch goal because our main goal is we.
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Justin Chai
Just have the SDK, right.
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Justin Chai
The documentation and everything will be a stretch goal.
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Justin Chai
If we can achieve that or some semblance and everything, I think that would be fantastic because then we can start.
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Justin Chai
Using for other projects, you know.
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Justin Chai
But if we can't, I think it's okay because.
579
Khanh Yara
No, yeah, I think it is the interesting.
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Khanh Yara
I would say.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah.
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Khanh Yara
So let's.
583
Khanh Yara
Let's extend and see.
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Khanh Yara
So I care more about how it is automating.
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Khanh Yara
We have the pipeline.
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Justin Chai
Yes.
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Khanh Yara
From the SDK update to the storybook automatically.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah.
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Khanh Yara
So I'm thinking on other sense.
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Justin Chai
So I think once you think about that.
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Justin Chai
Right.
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Justin Chai
As a stretch goal, we can.
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Justin Chai
How that can be done.
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Justin Chai
Because I think it will be a very good pipeline and something that, you.
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Justin Chai
Know, can help everybody in the future, you know.
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Justin Chai
And because I'm also on the product side of things, I'm also trying to see if once we have this, and then maybe it's a separate project and everything.
597
Justin Chai
But you can see that, for example, this is another feature that I'm working.
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Justin Chai
On right now is for farmer segmentation.
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Justin Chai
But I want to start using this kind of things to talk to business, you know, show them that this is how it will look like and it looks quite similar to the back end, so then it's easier for them to visualize instead of waiting till UAT for.
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Justin Chai
Them to start tapping and finding issues and everything.
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Justin Chai
So that's also my other objective, to have a SDK, or at least a.
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Justin Chai
Documented design system in that sense.
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Khanh Yara
Yeah, that's nice.
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Khanh Yara
Even you can show the farmer once you're out there.
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Daniel Pieper
Exactly.
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Justin Chai
I'm going to Thailand next week, so I'm also now speed running certain ideas and certain prototypes because I want to.
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Justin Chai
Put something in front of, you know, the farmers and in front of the retailers in that sense.
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Justin Chai
Yeah.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay.
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Justin Chai
I think we have a clear plan of action, so let's then regroup later.
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Justin Chai
I think five o'.
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Justin Chai
Clock.
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Daniel Pieper
Okay.
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Khanh Yara
Okay.
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Justin Chai
All right.
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Khanh Yara
Bye.
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Daniel Pieper
Bye.
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Daniel Pieper
Thank you, everyone.
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Khanh Yara
Thank you.

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Daniel Pieper
  • Explore setting up a small pipeline over the weekend to create tasks from meeting transcripts with better context and integrate these tasks with Jira tickets01:36
  • Review and provide comments on Justin’s shared Jira setup and design system documents before the next call to ensure alignment on detail level and structure29:09
  • Create and share a small article on securing MCP endpoints for Claude to guide securing demo and production environments23:59
Justin Chai
  • Share the Field Force Design System and MCP documents with Daniel and Khanh for feedback and alignment on detail level and structure03:54
  • Lead demo and walkthrough preparation showing progress, workflows, Jira usage, and prototyping methodologies during the afternoon meeting07:30
  • Coordinate with Quinn to showcase versioning progress and complete design system components for review24:55
  • Discuss with Ram or relevant internal teams about access to GitHub Enterprise for secure internal hosting of design system and prototypes27:04
  • Follow up on Jira and Fireflies transcript integration for structured task tracking and decision documentation29:09
Khanh Yara
  • Continue developing the single source of truth using concise markdown files with front matter for on-demand context loading by agents15:27
  • Develop internal CLI tooling to support developer workflows in accessing or updating context, aligned with governance and continuous integration via pull requests21:40
  • Explore GitHub Enterprise pages as a secure alternative to public Cloudflare pages for hosting the single source of truth and demo content, coordinating with Justin25:44
Quinn
  • Complete versioning work and prepare demo of version control improvements for the next meeting24:55
  • Review design system components and collaborate on finalizing the Field Force Design System documentation03:54
Sonnet 4.5
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Daniel Pieper
  • Formalize Jira workflow over the weekend to extract tasks from transcripts via pipeline with human-in-the-loop review.
  • Review Justin's walkthrough deck before the afternoon meeting with Claude Tian.
  • Create a guide on how to harden MCP endpoint security for Cloudflare Pages.
Khanh Yara
  • Continue working on single source of truth architecture pending decision on staging environment access.
  • Review design system structure and provide feedback on component detail level.
Quinn
  • Demo versioning workflow tomorrow.
  • Review design system structure and provide feedback on component detail level.
Sonnet 5
anthropic/claude-sonnet-5in 14.6k / out 588 tok · $0.035111 items
Daniel Pieper
  • Formalize a pipeline over the weekend to extract tasks from meeting transcripts using Jira context, with human-in-the-loop review.
  • Write a short guide/article on how to harden and secure the MCP endpoint (and Cloudflare Pages access) for Justin.
  • Review Justin's walkthrough deck/flow and provide comments before the Claude Tian meeting.
Justin Chai
  • Share the Jira process document and design system link with the team for review.
  • Ask Claude Tian for a decision on whether the pilot app can connect to Yara's staging environment for context.
  • Talk to Ram about GitHub Enterprise Pages access to potentially replace Cloudflare Pages.
Khanh Yara
  • Continue building the single-source-of-truth (SSOT) architecture (atomic markdown files, front matter, CLI workflow, CI/CD governance) pending the staging-access decision from Claude Tian.
  • Review Justin's design system setup and provide feedback on component detail level.
  • Explore automating the SDK-to-Storybook pipeline as a stretch goal.
Quinn
  • Prepare and demo the versioning workflow tomorrow.
  • Review Justin's design system setup and provide feedback on component detail level.
Opus 4.8
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Daniel Pieper
  • Set up a small pipeline over the weekend using Yara context to extract tasks from transcripts and formalize the Jira ticket process with a pending-review/human-in-the-loop stage.
  • Review Justin's walkthrough deck and design system link and provide comments before the afternoon call with Claude.
  • Create a short guide on securing the MCP endpoint and Cloudflare Pages access using Cloudflare service credentials/access app with Claude.
Justin Chai
  • Share the walkthrough deck and design system links (with credentials) with the team for review.
  • Ask Claude Tian for permission to connect the pilot app to Yara's staging environment during the afternoon session.
Khanh Yara
  • Continue building the single-source-of-truth architecture with atomic markdown files, front matter, CLI-driven workflow, and CI/CD governance, pending the staging-access decision.
  • Review Justin's design system structure and component detail level for alignment.
Quinn
  • Demo the versioning workflow tomorrow.
  • Review Justin's design system setup and component detail level for alignment.